5 Dumb Things To Do On/After A First Date

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Seems to me like the modern day dating experience is as much about avoiding making mistakes as it is relaxing, being yourself and enjoying the moment. The emphasis on making a first impression leads some to lie, portray a false image or take themselves out of their comfort zone.

Now despite….

1) being rude to the waiter/waitress
2) dating someone involved with another person
3) saying “I’ll just have a salad” to show face when I saw your bottom lip self-moisten when you looked at the chicken on my plate

….being some of the things I would personally find a hassle when dating, these are definitely 5 very standout dumb things you shouldn’t do on or after a first date…


Ask, Talk About or Dwell on Theirs or Your Ex

On The First Date? Come on! Talking about past relationships so early is a pre-requisite for a “it was nice to meet you, don’t call me I’ll call you” climax kinda evening. It’s something to talk about at some point but on the first date if you can only muster up “The thing about my ex was…” in conversation you’re not ready.

Agree to Pay for the date (if it involves money) when you have question marks instead of numbers in your bank account

“You ever been on a date at a restaurant where you’re the one who is going to pay knowing fully well you don’t have much in your account and so you’re hoping your date doesn’t order the whole of page 2 and then want to quench their thirst with numerous glasses of double digit priced cocktails, then have a sweet tooth to match with the order of extra dessert leaving you sweating over the bill?”

(See Force Factor in Recession Dating for more)

1....2....3! FRIEND ZOOOOONE CHEEEESE!

Give a Second Date to them despite having no interest, attraction or future with them

“How was the date?”
“It was cool but I wasn’t attracted to her”
“Really?”
“Yeah, she didn’t really do it for me, but I’ll probably take her out again because she’s…you know, a nice person and all”

*side eye* I’m a supporter of the Mrs Nice Girl/Mr Nice Guy type, and living proof that we finish first (cough), but this is dumb. If you’re not feeling them don’t waste their money time or yours. Unless you’ve let them know how you feel already, agreeing to a second date will only only send mixed signals. Make it abundantly clear that they have a nice cosmopolitan/bottle of supermalt waiting for them in the Friend Zone.

Have Sex

Depending on what you both initially wanted from this date/each other this is debatable for a few; but many will tell you that once that takes place the interest and possibly respect for the woman declines further than Lebron James’ hairline.

Send a 1615 word email to them wondering why they don’t want to go out on a second date

This is a true story of an investment banker named Mike who sent this long ass  email to a girl named Lauren showing his dissappointment at her lack of contact after their first date, This email has been doing the rounds on the internet being ridiculed and discussed on every site it’s been on and I’m honoured to share it with my peoples. This is Dumb Mike….very dumb! Have a Read

Hi Lauren,

I’m disappointed in you. I’m disappointed that I haven’t gotten a response to my voicemail and text messages.

FYI, I suggest that you keep in mind that emails sound more impersonal, harsher, and are easier to misinterpret than in-person or phone communication. After all, people can’t see someone’s body language or tone of voice in an email. I’m not trying to be harsh, patronizing, or insulting in this email. I’m honest and direct by nature, and I’m going to be that way in this email. By the way, I did a google search, so that’s how I came across your email.

I assume that you no longer want to go out with me. (If you do want to go out with me, then you should let me know.) I suggest that you make a sincere apology to me for giving me mixed signals. I feel led on by you.

Things that happened during our date include, but are not limited to, the following:

-You played with your hair a lot. A woman playing with her hair is a common sign of flirtation. You can even do a google search on it. When a woman plays with her hair, she is preening. I’ve never had a date where a woman played with her hair as much as you did. In addition, it didn’t look like you were playing with your hair out of nervousness.

-We had lots of eye contact during our date. On a per-minute basis, I’ve never had as much eye contact during a date as I did with you.

-You said, “It was nice to meet you.” at the end of our date. A woman could say this statement as a way to show that she isn’t interested in seeing a man again or she could mean what she said–that it was nice to meet you. The statement, by itself, is inconclusive.

-We had a nice conversation over dinner. I don’t think I’m being delusional in saying this statement.

In my opinion, leading someone on (i.e., giving mixed signals) is impolite and immature. It’s bad to do that.

Normally, I would not be asking for information if a woman and I don’t go out again after a first date. However, in our case, I’m curious because I think our date went well and that there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship. Of course, it’s difficult to predict what would happen, but I think there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship developing between us one day (or least there was before your non-response to my voicemail and text messages).

I think we should go out on a second date. In my opinion, our first date was good enough to lead to a second date.

Why am I writing you? Well, hopefully, we will go out again. Even if we don’t, I gain utility from expressing my thoughts to you. In addition, even if you don’t want to go out again, I would like to get feedback as to why you wouldn’t want to go again. Normally, I wouldn’t ask a woman for this type of feedback after a first date, but this is an exception given I think we have a lot of potential.

If you don’t want to go again, then apparently you didn’t think our first date was good enough to lead to a second date. Dating or a relationship is not a Hollywood movie. It’s good to keep that in mind. In general, I thought the date went well and was expecting that we would go out on a second date.

If you’re not interested in going out again, then I would have preferred if you hadn’t given those mixed signals. I feel led on. We have a number of things in common. I’ll name a few things: First, we’ve both very intelligent. Second, we both like classical music so much that we go to classical music performances by ourselves. In fact, the number one interest that I would want to have in common with a woman with whom I’m in a relationship is a liking of classical music. I wouldn’t be seriously involved with a woman if she didn’t like classical music. You said that you’re planning to go the NY Philharmonic more often in the future. As I said, I go to the NY Philharmonic often. You’re very busy. It would be very convenient for you to date me because we have the same interests. We already go to classical music performances by ourselves. If we go to classical music performances together, it wouldn’t take any significant additional time on your part. According to the internet, you’re 33 or 32, so, at least from my point of view, we’re a good match in terms of age. I could name more things that we have in common, but I’ll stop here.

I don’t understand why you apparently don’t want to go out with me again. We have numerous things in common. I assume that you find me physically attractive. If you didn’t find me physically attractive, then it would have been irrational for you to go out with me in the first place. After all, our first date was not a blind date. You already knew what I looked like before our date. Perhaps, you’re unimpressed that I manage my family’s investments and my own investments. Perhaps, you don’t think I have a “real” job. Well, I’ve done very well as an investment manager. I’ve made my parents several millions of dollars. That’s real money. That’s not monopoly money. In my opinion, if I make real money, it’s a real job. Donald Trump’s children work for his company. Do they have “real” jobs? I think so. George Soros’s sons help manage their family investments. Do they have “real” jobs? I think so. In addition, I’m both a right-brain and left-brain man, given that I’m both an investment manager and a philosopher/writer. That’s a unique characteristic; most people aren’t like that. I’ve never been as disappointed and sad about having difficulty about getting a second date as I am with you. I’ve gone out with a lot of women in my life. (FYI, I’m not a serial dater. Sometimes, I’ve only gone out with a woman for one date.) People don’t grow on trees. I hope you appreciate the potential we have.

Am I sensitive person? Sure, I am. I think it’s better to be sensitive than to be insensitive. There are too many impolite, insensitive people in the world.

I suggest that we continue to go out and see what happens. Needless to say, I find you less appealing now (given that you haven’t returned my messages) than I did at our first date. However, I would be willing to go out with you again. I’m open minded and flexible and am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I wish you would give me the benefit of the doubt too. If you don’t want to go out again, in my opinion, you would be making a big mistake, perhaps one of the biggest mistakes in your life. If you don’t want to go out again, then you should have called to tell me so. Even sending a text message would have been better than nothing. In my opinion, not responding to my messages is impolite, immature, passive aggressive, and cowardly. I spent time, effort, and money meeting you for dinner. Getting back to me in response to my messages would have been a reasonable thing for you to do. In addition, you arrived about 30 minutes late for our date. I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if a man showed up thirty minutes late for a first date with you.

If you’re concerned that you will hurt my feelings by providing specific information about why you don’t want to go with me again, well, my feeling are already hurt. I’m sad and disappointed about this situation. If you give information, at least I can understand the situation better. I might even learn something that is beneficial.

If you don’t want to go out again, that I request that you call me and make a sincere apology for leading me on (i.e., giving me mixed signals). In my opinion, you shouldn’t act that way toward a man and then not go out with him again. It’s bad to play with your hair so much and make so much eye contact if you’re not interested in going out with me again. I have tried to write this email well, but it’s not perfect. Again, I’m not trying to be harsh, insulting, patronizing, etc. I’m disappointed, sad, etc. I would like to talk to you on the phone. I hope you will call me back at xxx-xxx-xxxx> (if it’s inconvenient for you to talk on the phone when you read this email, you can let me know via email that you are willing to talk on the phone and I’ll call you). If you get my voicemail, you can a leave a message and I can call you back. Even if you don’t want to go out again, I would appreciate it if you give me the courtesy of calling me and talking to me. Yes, you might say things that hurt me, but my feelings are already hurt. Sending me an email response (instead of talking on the phone) would better than no response at all, but I think it would be better to talk on the phone. Email communication has too much potential for misinterpretation, etc.

Best, Mike

Speechless

JC

Ladies and Gents what are your Thoughts on the email? What other dumb things should guys and girls never do on or after a first date. Leave your comments!

16 comments on “5 Dumb Things To Do On/After A First Date

  1. Ladybird on said:

    LOOOOOO*breathes*OOOOOOL

    Mike, wow. Please, let Lauren’s whereabouts be known to police @ all times. Why do I picture him handing out evaluation forms after a date!? No, he should repent.

    Agree with your points. Another no no is talking on the phone/bbm/whats app on any date for that matter. Bad manners!

  2. keisha brown on said:

    im DYING at that letter.
    you know why?
    i’ve gotten more than one.

    ps: nice girls finish last too.

    • Justin Credible on said:

      @keisha brown, You’re not the first woman to say they can relate to this, Im bemused as to how many brothers out there are doing surveys on date performance

  3. Haha funny stuff. The email cracked few of my ribs. Nice one JC.

  4. hahahahahahahahaha…Mike, stoooooop it!!!
    she’s just not that into you…let the girl be

  5. Double N on said:

    a nice bottle of supermalt waiting for you in the friend zone <—- Classic lol

    Read that dear lauren letter earlier on a different website, WOW is all I have to say. very convincing arument for a second date there mike
    *SIDE EYE*

  6. Hahahahahahahaha no but… that letter?!!!! WHY?!!!

  7. Oh nooo!
    He sounds like he might be a person with high performing autism or Asperger’s. I mean all of his comments made sense, his brain just seems to be lacking the tact to keep some of his observations to himself! Damn I must be weird, I feel so sorry for him ( assuming this is real ), the whole thing is now all over the internet double blow.

    Thinking about it I haven’t been on many stereotypical dates in my life really (lol) , but i agree with the exes one. I was made to talk about my past relationship on a first date that was going perfectly fine once (he actually said something along the lines of “so how was your love life been this last year ” – awkward) and I think it just ruined the mood; he practically ‘friend zone’-d himself.

  8. The Hopeful Romantic (@TheHopefulRom) on said:

    That email was just….errmmm wow. On the plus side, they have opened a clinic for stalkers wanting to change their ways in Enfield so this guy can attend it.

    Great points – I really don’t get the whole taking someone on a second date when you are no way no how not interested. Different matter if you are in two minds but if you have no interest…I had a male friend come back from a first date, mock the girl’s accent and describe her as annoying but then finish by saying he would probably take her out again. No sense.

  9. Michelle on said:

    In 100% agreement with Sophie. Either that or he’s a serial killer.

  10. B.Jones on said:

    Hiiiiilariousss@Mike!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks for the read BWNG, im getting there slowly whoop !!

  11. so.. mike is crazy.. “you played with your hair!” so.. its her hair! she can do as she pleases.. something wrong with him. on a side note though. WTH is up with that guys hair in the second pic.. that is ALSO something to be avoided on the first date. dress/groom yourself appropriately! DWL @ mike!

  12. Only Me on said:

    I think Mike’s got a point!!! Yeh, he should have left out certain things and maybe made it abit
    more succinct but on the whole alot of the points are valid.

    The irony is that he will probably find someone and she’ll grow old and lonely!

  13. Melanie on said:

    Ohhh first dates… such a pain. I think I am always too much of my real self on a first date (crazy)… However I would have to add, get too drunk… That is never a good idea on the first FEW dates… especially when people seem to lose a lot of inhibitions and might say some questionable things if inebriated!
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  14. Uniq Sistar on said:

    WOW! Mike should have just gone ahead and written a BOOK looooooooool. There are too many things worth laughing at in that essay *ahem* sorry “letter” lol! Speechless hahahaha…..
    Uniq Sistar recently posted..Highlights from “This Is My Beat” 13.8.2012My Profile

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